Talk:List of martial arts weapons
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Mamba la bamba
"Mamba" under "Knives" links to Mamba, the snake. I don't think the snake is a knife. Having never heard of a type of knife called a "mamba," I'm not sure whether the link should be deleted altogether or if it was just incomplete authorship. --threedimes
Perhaps it would be a good idea to reorganize the weapons into better categories.
We could first organize by type, like missle weapons/melee weapons, bludgeoning weapons/bladed weapons, short/long/soft weapons, and so on.
Second, we could also include a second list that is organized by country/culture of origin.
Also, using a word like 'quarterstaff' as a header is kind of wrong - because that is a specific weapon of Europe that really isn't applied to, say, Japanese bo staffs.
Edededed 04:17, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
"Common objects used as weapons" is ridiculous.
Shoes? Go and show me a martial art using SHOES. Or fans for that matter. You could put everything and the kitchen sink in that list. Bottles are used in bar brawls -- so why not list them as well?
Just restrict it to weapons that ARE used in common martial arts or I'll create my own martial art based on the arcane style of hitting people with frying pans. -- Ashmodai 12:12, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Considering that "Common objects used as weapons" is potentially infinite, and is not, presently, even close to passing as reasonable, I am going to Be Bold and remove it from this list. 126.96.36.199 06:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Why are naginata and nagamaki called Japanese Halberds? Neither are halberds in any way I understand a halbard to be a type of a polearm with an axe in it. Changing it Highlandlord 04:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
If you follow the links at the bottom of the article some images give an idea of the length. It's a walking stick about 4 feet long.Peter Rehse 02:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
The link for "Val" goes to the disambiguation page, and apparently there is no page for the weapon itself. Not sure what to do about that . . .
Basically the list is to cover martial arts weapons that have articles. Dead links should be shot on site. With disambiguation pages - the link should be fixed to point to the weapon directly or failing that deleted. The idea if the weapon is important it will have its own article, if not - it shouldn't be on the list.Peter Rehse 02:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was thinking the weapons list should be elaborated on by creating sub-genres such as
shortsword/daggar-like, shortsword/machete-like, longsword/sabre-like, longsword/straight blade, polearm/axhead, polearm/sword, polearm/quarter-staff, polearm/duo-end, Daggar, Knife, pushdirk, fist enhancers -to differentiate cutting blades from thrusting blades, 2handers from bastards and singlehanders. Bloodkith (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Should some staffweapons like the shellelagh be moved to truncheons? it is more of a club.
I've just added a huge amount of pictures, with even more on the way, of the Chicken Sickles on the appropriate article. Do you think we could get some pictures on this page of the various weapons. Granted a person could see what it looks like on the page linked from this one. But what if someone knows what the weapon looks like, but doesn't know its name? If a picture was up, with the name, a person could find it easily and go to the page to find out more detailed info on it. They wouldn't have to be big either. Just clump all of the weapons in their proper sections in a gallery. Just make sure to name them. The pictures wouldn't be so small a person couldn't recognize what it is. What do you thing? (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 17:42, 27 October 2006(UTC))
What makes a martial art weapon
I think this list is getting too broad. Is a martial art weapon something that is currently being used for martial art practice or any weapon (modern, ancient or fantasy). I think it should be the former - any opinions? Remember we have List of ancient weapons and List of mêlée weapons. I expect some overlap but not total.Peter Rehse 07:50, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree that this list is to generic and broad. Is a martial arts weapons a practice weapon? (Added a link to practice weapons at the bottom), A weapon used in a major current martial art? Any weapon could be used in a martial art somewhere and every premodern weapon was once used in some art. What does martial arts weapon mean? Uroscion (talk) 22:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)User:Uroscion
I think it would be helpful to add a short (2-3 word) description of the origin of each weapon after, some of them already have them, but some of us have no idea what a Scramasax is.
Just an idea. :)
- To both sections, would it be simple to say unless we have an article on the martial art then they shouldn't be here? --Nate1481(t/c) 14:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
This is the third time I'll have had to edit this page. Someone came along and vandalized the page (or is even more incompetent at Wiki code than I am, which is certainly a feat) and when I try to erase the extraneous code it gets reverted. There's so much code on the page that it takes me several minutes just to load the edit page, so I really hope this'll be the last time I have to.188.8.131.52 (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Should we merge them?
Sincerely, The Transhumanist 00:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've had a look at both articles, and while I see your reasoning, I do suggest not merging the pair just yet. My main reason sits with the axe section in the melee weapons, but I think there's a few other melee weapons that aren't used in martial arts (and vice versa). We should look over the lists, though, and see what belongs where. --JB Adder | Talk 08:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
No their not synonyms their opposites mele weapons would suggest that these weapons would be used in a flailing undisciplined way when the exact opposite is true Irishfrisian (talk) 22:31, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
It's such a common mistake that it's not even considered incorrect anymore, but the term "martial arts" is not meant to be used as an adjective. Therefore commonly-used terms like "martial arts weapon" or "martial arts practitioner" would be both redundant and technically incorrect. My suggestion would be renaming this article "Weapons of martial arts" or something to that effect. Morinae (talk) 08:46, 19 November 2011 (UTC)